1 00:00:08,150 --> 00:00:05,829 good day and welcome to mission control 2 00:00:10,470 --> 00:00:08,160 houston i'm kelly humphries uh and this 3 00:00:12,390 --> 00:00:10,480 is shannon walker an astronaut and a 4 00:00:14,870 --> 00:00:12,400 veteran of a long duration space flight 5 00:00:17,990 --> 00:00:14,880 on the international space station and 6 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:18,000 also a uh expert in what it takes to get 7 00:00:21,429 --> 00:00:19,760 ready and land a soyuz spacecraft 8 00:00:23,109 --> 00:00:21,439 welcome shannon thank you it's good to 9 00:00:25,509 --> 00:00:23,119 be here kelly it's wonderful to have you 10 00:00:27,910 --> 00:00:25,519 here uh tell us a little bit about what 11 00:00:29,910 --> 00:00:27,920 the crew has been doing in the week or 12 00:00:32,310 --> 00:00:29,920 so leading up here and 13 00:00:33,990 --> 00:00:32,320 you might even throw in what the extra 14 00:00:36,069 --> 00:00:34,000 work of doing a spacewalk in the middle 15 00:00:36,950 --> 00:00:36,079 of all that was like probably 16 00:00:38,950 --> 00:00:36,960 yeah 17 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:38,960 leading up to 18 00:00:43,030 --> 00:00:40,800 an undocking basically the crew has to 19 00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:43,040 get the cargo ready to go that is going 20 00:00:47,590 --> 00:00:45,600 to be packed on the soyuz and since the 21 00:00:49,190 --> 00:00:47,600 soyuz descent module is so small there's 22 00:00:52,310 --> 00:00:49,200 not a lot of room for cargo so they have 23 00:00:55,110 --> 00:00:52,320 to pack it very carefully so on the 24 00:00:56,630 --> 00:00:55,120 the u.s side and with chris cassidy and 25 00:00:58,549 --> 00:00:56,640 tom marshburn and 26 00:01:00,069 --> 00:00:58,559 chris hatfield they've gathered up the 27 00:01:01,590 --> 00:01:00,079 us cargo that needs to be packed up 28 00:01:03,349 --> 00:01:01,600 packaged it carefully giving it off to 29 00:01:05,830 --> 00:01:03,359 the russians who will then pack it into 30 00:01:07,350 --> 00:01:05,840 the soyuz underneath the seats and in a 31 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:07,360 few nooks and crannies getting ready to 32 00:01:12,310 --> 00:01:09,840 go so having an eva come in the middle 33 00:01:13,830 --> 00:01:12,320 of your last minute packing uh kind of 34 00:01:15,590 --> 00:01:13,840 makes makes the schedule a little bit 35 00:01:17,030 --> 00:01:15,600 more compact and a little bit a little 36 00:01:19,030 --> 00:01:17,040 bit more busy 37 00:01:20,710 --> 00:01:19,040 well and chris mentioned in 38 00:01:22,550 --> 00:01:20,720 one of the daily planning conferences 39 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:22,560 that roman was off doing most of that 40 00:01:25,350 --> 00:01:24,400 while they were doing the space walk 41 00:01:27,590 --> 00:01:25,360 does that 42 00:01:29,990 --> 00:01:27,600 logistically make a lot of sense 43 00:01:31,990 --> 00:01:30,000 yeah it does luckily when we do our our 44 00:01:34,710 --> 00:01:32,000 space walks the entire space station is 45 00:01:36,310 --> 00:01:34,720 open and so rahman has access to 46 00:01:38,630 --> 00:01:36,320 anything on the u.s side that he might 47 00:01:39,910 --> 00:01:38,640 need to uh pack at the end and if we've 48 00:01:41,830 --> 00:01:39,920 done our homework right we've got 49 00:01:44,389 --> 00:01:41,840 everything ready to go days ahead of 50 00:01:46,550 --> 00:01:44,399 time ahead of the undock but sometimes 51 00:01:47,910 --> 00:01:46,560 last minute items come up for example 52 00:01:49,429 --> 00:01:47,920 probably today there's probably some 53 00:01:51,109 --> 00:01:49,439 last minute science samples that were 54 00:01:53,030 --> 00:01:51,119 taken that need to be packaged and 55 00:01:54,469 --> 00:01:53,040 packed and and sent down on the soyuz so 56 00:01:56,389 --> 00:01:54,479 there is some last minute packing that 57 00:01:58,469 --> 00:01:56,399 happens just to make sure that the the 58 00:01:59,749 --> 00:01:58,479 science isn't um 59 00:02:01,429 --> 00:01:59,759 well it remains at the proper 60 00:02:02,950 --> 00:02:01,439 temperature on the way home i believe 61 00:02:04,630 --> 00:02:02,960 they were bringing back some japanese 62 00:02:05,670 --> 00:02:04,640 protein crystal growth samples this time 63 00:02:07,990 --> 00:02:05,680 around 64 00:02:10,869 --> 00:02:08,000 well so tell us a little bit about uh 65 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:10,879 what it's like to get ready in terms of 66 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:14,000 inside the soyuz it's a fairly cramped 67 00:02:17,830 --> 00:02:15,680 area and i think we've got some images 68 00:02:20,229 --> 00:02:17,840 that will help you describe that 69 00:02:21,830 --> 00:02:20,239 okay yeah this is a picture that you see 70 00:02:23,670 --> 00:02:21,840 of the soyuz descent module so this is 71 00:02:25,670 --> 00:02:23,680 the actual place that the crew 72 00:02:28,309 --> 00:02:25,680 sits all the way down coming home when 73 00:02:29,589 --> 00:02:28,319 they first get into the soyuz before oh 74 00:02:31,430 --> 00:02:29,599 look there's some good pictures of the 75 00:02:33,030 --> 00:02:31,440 soyuz seats where the where the crew 76 00:02:34,710 --> 00:02:33,040 will be sitting you can see they're kind 77 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:34,720 of small and your knees are up close to 78 00:02:37,990 --> 00:02:36,800 your chest it's not like sitting in a in 79 00:02:40,070 --> 00:02:38,000 an airplane by any stretch of the 80 00:02:41,830 --> 00:02:40,080 imagination but when the crew gets in 81 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:41,840 they will then put on what's termed 82 00:02:45,110 --> 00:02:43,040 their circle suits these are the 83 00:02:46,630 --> 00:02:45,120 pressurization suits that the crew wears 84 00:02:47,670 --> 00:02:46,640 and they will get into their seats these 85 00:02:50,070 --> 00:02:47,680 are the panels this is the 86 00:02:51,589 --> 00:02:50,080 instrumentation that the the crew sees 87 00:02:52,949 --> 00:02:51,599 on the way home and so they will go 88 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:52,959 through checks and make sure that all 89 00:02:56,630 --> 00:02:54,560 the systems of the soyuz are working 90 00:02:57,990 --> 00:02:56,640 properly there's valves to be configured 91 00:02:59,190 --> 00:02:58,000 and and 92 00:03:00,390 --> 00:02:59,200 all kinds of 93 00:03:01,990 --> 00:03:00,400 checks obviously you want all your 94 00:03:03,750 --> 00:03:02,000 systems to work properly so they go 95 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:03,760 through some pretty detailed checks to 96 00:03:08,949 --> 00:03:06,720 making sure everything is is ready to go 97 00:03:11,270 --> 00:03:08,959 and at the appropriate time they will 98 00:03:13,589 --> 00:03:11,280 push the button to unhook 99 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:13,599 the soyuz from the space station this is 100 00:03:17,190 --> 00:03:15,760 a good view of what the commander has 101 00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:17,200 right in front of him the soyuz 102 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:18,959 commander he has a periscope where he 103 00:03:24,390 --> 00:03:21,840 can see activity outside that is the 104 00:03:26,070 --> 00:03:24,400 hatch actually that is above the crew 105 00:03:28,229 --> 00:03:26,080 that goes into what's called the orbital 106 00:03:30,149 --> 00:03:28,239 compartment and the orbital compartment 107 00:03:32,149 --> 00:03:30,159 is when on the way up they have lots of 108 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:32,159 cargo in there and on the way down there 109 00:03:34,789 --> 00:03:33,440 are things that are not going to make it 110 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:34,799 back to earth because the orbital 111 00:03:38,149 --> 00:03:36,720 compartment will separate from the 112 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:38,159 descent module and burn up into the 113 00:03:41,589 --> 00:03:39,840 atmosphere so it's a chance to get rid 114 00:03:43,750 --> 00:03:41,599 of some things that you may not need 115 00:03:45,110 --> 00:03:43,760 such as 116 00:03:46,309 --> 00:03:45,120 you know like some hygiene items that 117 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:46,319 you might have used on the station that 118 00:03:49,830 --> 00:03:48,640 you're not using anymore and then uh 119 00:03:51,430 --> 00:03:49,840 some of the clothes that you actually 120 00:03:52,229 --> 00:03:51,440 wear into the soyuz 121 00:03:53,750 --> 00:03:52,239 okay 122 00:03:56,710 --> 00:03:53,760 um well now you were a member of the 123 00:03:58,390 --> 00:03:56,720 exhibition 24 25 crew how long did you 124 00:04:00,390 --> 00:03:58,400 spend on orbit i was there almost six 125 00:04:02,070 --> 00:04:00,400 months okay 126 00:04:03,589 --> 00:04:02,080 i imagine it's got to be 127 00:04:05,750 --> 00:04:03,599 a little bit bittersweet getting ready 128 00:04:08,309 --> 00:04:05,760 to come home yes of course it is i mean 129 00:04:10,229 --> 00:04:08,319 you've had a very busy time on orbit it 130 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:10,239 is a fantastic place to live and work 131 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:11,040 and 132 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:14,080 um it is it is sad uh leaving because 133 00:04:17,110 --> 00:04:15,599 for a lot of people you don't know if or 134 00:04:18,629 --> 00:04:17,120 when you might be able to go back to 135 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:18,639 that wonderful laboratory that we have 136 00:04:21,270 --> 00:04:19,840 in the sky 137 00:04:23,590 --> 00:04:21,280 well and and you're also getting ready 138 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:23,600 to come back to gravity after not having 139 00:04:28,469 --> 00:04:25,840 had any for quite some time six months 140 00:04:30,550 --> 00:04:28,479 in your case uh we've got some uh 141 00:04:32,550 --> 00:04:30,560 animation that shows the process maybe 142 00:04:33,990 --> 00:04:32,560 you could walk us through that and and 143 00:04:35,749 --> 00:04:34,000 maybe give us a little insight about 144 00:04:37,350 --> 00:04:35,759 what it's feeling like on the inside of 145 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:37,360 the soyuz is coming up absolutely i 146 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:38,479 would love to 147 00:04:41,510 --> 00:04:39,680 so of course the first thing that 148 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:41,520 happens is the soyuz undocks from the 149 00:04:46,710 --> 00:04:43,360 station is actually pushed away by some 150 00:04:48,550 --> 00:04:46,720 springs uh about 15 seconds or so well 151 00:04:50,629 --> 00:04:48,560 actually a couple minutes i'm i'm 152 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:50,639 misspoke there a couple minutes after it 153 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:52,720 gets away from the station it fires some 154 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:55,440 jets and backs further away 155 00:04:58,390 --> 00:04:56,560 it 156 00:05:00,550 --> 00:04:58,400 goes around the earth about one time and 157 00:05:02,629 --> 00:05:00,560 then it will fire its main engine on the 158 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:02,639 the soyuz spacecraft to slow it down to 159 00:05:05,909 --> 00:05:04,639 bring it back into the atmosphere that 160 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:05,919 engine burn is about four and a half 161 00:05:10,070 --> 00:05:07,360 minutes long 162 00:05:11,830 --> 00:05:10,080 about 20 30 minutes after that the 163 00:05:13,270 --> 00:05:11,840 compartments separate so there goes the 164 00:05:15,510 --> 00:05:13,280 orbital compartment there goes your main 165 00:05:17,830 --> 00:05:15,520 engine you don't need it anymore and the 166 00:05:19,510 --> 00:05:17,840 sp the descent module is on its own and 167 00:05:20,870 --> 00:05:19,520 it starts coming through the atmosphere 168 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:20,880 now this is where it gets pretty 169 00:05:24,150 --> 00:05:22,720 exciting right it gets very hot on the 170 00:05:25,590 --> 00:05:24,160 inside of the soyuz the outside is 171 00:05:26,629 --> 00:05:25,600 heating up 172 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:26,639 it's a 173 00:05:30,950 --> 00:05:29,039 pretty dynamic event a little bit later 174 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:30,960 the parachute 175 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:33,680 comes out when you're about 35 000 feet 176 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:34,720 in the sky so you're up where the 177 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:36,880 airplanes are flying the parachute comes 178 00:05:40,390 --> 00:05:38,880 out that's another really dynamic event 179 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:40,400 it's a lot of bouncing and jerking 180 00:05:45,510 --> 00:05:42,800 around and about 15 minutes after that 181 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:45,520 you will actually uh land on the ground 182 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:46,880 in kazakhstan 183 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:48,400 and so do you actually start feeling 184 00:05:51,510 --> 00:05:50,160 gravity while you're in the descent 185 00:05:53,909 --> 00:05:51,520 sequence before you actually hit the 186 00:05:56,550 --> 00:05:53,919 earth yeah you do absolutely once you 187 00:05:58,390 --> 00:05:56,560 start into uh the atmosphere when you 188 00:05:59,909 --> 00:05:58,400 can see things start heating up you can 189 00:06:01,270 --> 00:05:59,919 feel yourself being pulled down into 190 00:06:02,870 --> 00:06:01,280 your seat a little bit more at that 191 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:02,880 point you really want to tighten your 192 00:06:05,830 --> 00:06:04,000 your straps you've got shoulder 193 00:06:06,790 --> 00:06:05,840 harnesses you've got straps on your 194 00:06:08,790 --> 00:06:06,800 knees and 195 00:06:10,950 --> 00:06:08,800 like a waist belt to make sure that you 196 00:06:12,550 --> 00:06:10,960 are tightly 197 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:12,560 slightly affixed to your seat so when 198 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:14,080 you do hit the ground that you're not 199 00:06:18,230 --> 00:06:16,240 going to bounce out and hurt yourself so 200 00:06:19,749 --> 00:06:18,240 with the increasing gravity you have 201 00:06:21,909 --> 00:06:19,759 more opportunity to tighten your straps 202 00:06:23,590 --> 00:06:21,919 and and make sure everything is safe 203 00:06:25,749 --> 00:06:23,600 is it a good feeling coming back and 204 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:25,759 feeling gravity again or is it or is it 205 00:06:29,670 --> 00:06:27,919 not good it's i would say it's kind of 206 00:06:31,510 --> 00:06:29,680 strange i wouldn't put it in a good or 207 00:06:33,670 --> 00:06:31,520 not good it just it's very different 208 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:33,680 because you haven't felt it for for six 209 00:06:39,350 --> 00:06:36,800 months and so it's just a very unusual 210 00:06:41,430 --> 00:06:39,360 sensation to have again on your body 211 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:41,440 and then after you of course have have 212 00:06:45,189 --> 00:06:43,440 the those those uh 213 00:06:48,469 --> 00:06:45,199 earth-facing rockets have fired and 214 00:06:50,309 --> 00:06:48,479 softened uh the blow you land the 215 00:06:51,990 --> 00:06:50,319 recovery teams show up you're pretty 216 00:06:54,790 --> 00:06:52,000 much sitting there in the soyuz waiting 217 00:06:56,950 --> 00:06:54,800 for them to show up uh and getting a 218 00:06:57,830 --> 00:06:56,960 chance to feel gravity even some more 219 00:06:59,189 --> 00:06:57,840 then 220 00:07:01,589 --> 00:06:59,199 tell us a little bit more about the 221 00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:01,599 extrication process yeah that's it's a 222 00:07:06,070 --> 00:07:03,520 very interesting how they help you out 223 00:07:08,309 --> 00:07:06,080 of the soyuz there's basically two cases 224 00:07:10,150 --> 00:07:08,319 you can have the soyuz land upright so 225 00:07:12,230 --> 00:07:10,160 you're actually sitting in your seats 226 00:07:13,909 --> 00:07:12,240 laying on your backs like you would hope 227 00:07:16,390 --> 00:07:13,919 that you're sort of the normal 228 00:07:18,790 --> 00:07:16,400 configuration of the soyuz or a lot of 229 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:18,800 times the soyuz will bounce depending on 230 00:07:22,390 --> 00:07:20,880 the wind conditions and it'll roll over 231 00:07:23,990 --> 00:07:22,400 on its side in that case you can be 232 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:24,000 anywhere so you could be 233 00:07:26,790 --> 00:07:25,360 laying on your back you could be hanging 234 00:07:28,870 --> 00:07:26,800 from your straps and that fact was my 235 00:07:31,350 --> 00:07:28,880 case so i was kind of leaning forward on 236 00:07:33,990 --> 00:07:31,360 the low side of the soyuz and so 237 00:07:35,749 --> 00:07:34,000 in that case the search and rescue crew 238 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:35,759 has to roll the soyuz to the proper 239 00:07:40,150 --> 00:07:38,880 orientation to help you out of the soyuz 240 00:07:41,990 --> 00:07:40,160 and they do help you out they don't want 241 00:07:43,670 --> 00:07:42,000 to have the crew hurt themselves getting 242 00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:43,680 out so they they take you out of the 243 00:07:47,510 --> 00:07:46,000 soyuz if it lands upright then the crew 244 00:07:49,589 --> 00:07:47,520 has to be able to 245 00:07:51,189 --> 00:07:49,599 get out the hatch overhead which is it 246 00:07:52,629 --> 00:07:51,199 takes a considerable amount of effort to 247 00:07:54,309 --> 00:07:52,639 do when you haven't dealt with gravity 248 00:07:55,990 --> 00:07:54,319 it's just some emotions that you haven't 249 00:07:57,589 --> 00:07:56,000 done in a while even though you exercise 250 00:08:00,070 --> 00:07:57,599 every day on orbit it's still just 251 00:08:02,469 --> 00:08:00,080 something new to your body 252 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:02,479 and but then of course you get the the 253 00:08:07,270 --> 00:08:05,120 smells of earth yes yes and it that is 254 00:08:08,710 --> 00:08:07,280 what it was was really neat um 255 00:08:09,830 --> 00:08:08,720 the a lot of people ask what does the 256 00:08:11,110 --> 00:08:09,840 space station smell like it doesn't 257 00:08:13,430 --> 00:08:11,120 really smell like anything it's just 258 00:08:14,790 --> 00:08:13,440 kind of a neutral smell it's uh there's 259 00:08:16,469 --> 00:08:14,800 there's no special smell of the space 260 00:08:18,309 --> 00:08:16,479 station but when you open the hatch in 261 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:18,319 kazakhstan you can smell the grass and 262 00:08:22,790 --> 00:08:20,560 it smells very sweet like flowers and 263 00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:22,800 perfume almost even though it's just 264 00:08:26,309 --> 00:08:24,080 grass out there in the steps of 265 00:08:28,309 --> 00:08:26,319 kazakhstan it's an amazing sensation and 266 00:08:30,629 --> 00:08:28,319 it really lets you know that you're 267 00:08:31,990 --> 00:08:30,639 truly home on planet earth it's probably 268 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:32,000 going to be springtime when these guys 269 00:08:34,949 --> 00:08:33,440 yeah so there might be flowers out there 270 00:08:36,949 --> 00:08:34,959 too so that'll be great that's great 271 00:08:39,350 --> 00:08:36,959 well any last words of advice for uh 272 00:08:40,630 --> 00:08:39,360 chris hadfield or tom marshburn or roman 273 00:08:41,829 --> 00:08:40,640 remain called as they're coming home 274 00:08:43,670 --> 00:08:41,839 well as they're coming home i would just 275 00:08:45,829 --> 00:08:43,680 say to them to truly enjoy the ride 276 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:45,839 because it is kind of special it is uh 277 00:08:49,910 --> 00:08:48,000 pretty exciting but um 278 00:08:52,070 --> 00:08:49,920 it always always goes according to plan 279 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:52,080 so enjoy it and we will see them on the 280 00:08:55,190 --> 00:08:53,760 ground here very shortly 281 00:08:57,269 --> 00:08:55,200 all right well shannon walker thank you 282 00:08:59,110 --> 00:08:57,279 so much for bringing your experience and 283 00:09:00,870 --> 00:08:59,120 expertise to mission control with us 284 00:09:02,389 --> 00:09:00,880 today and give people a peek on the 285 00:09:04,070 --> 00:09:02,399 inside of what's going to be happening 286 00:09:06,310 --> 00:09:04,080 later tonight when that